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To those who are planning to purchase laptops, be forewarned. First, I am no Steve Wozniak. Second, I am a Journalism graduate, not computer science. I am basing this review on the assumption that every product sold and every service rendered deserves feedback. It's my first time to own a laptop, so I figured I might as well say something about it in the spirit of sharing knowledge and experience.
For a couple of weeks, Kuchi and I had been window-shopping for a nifty and respectable laptop. Being a (lousy) writer and a graphic artist, we both knew the importance and the necessity of having a full-featured computer that could be easily used anywhere. Actually, practically every electronic equipment that can be miniaturized and optimized for mobile use and efficient power consumption is very effective at present (there are some disadvantages, but they are considered minor). We just wanted to own an inexpensive laptop on which I can write and store my articles/stories, and on which Kuchi can edit, design and save her graphic art works. We had literally craned our neck and peeped through window panes for a couple of weeks until we singled out a sleek, scratch-free laptop named Neo Basic B2165N. In other words, we bought it.
The Neo Basic B2165N laptop comes with many features. It uses an Intel Pentium Dual-Core technology with 1.73 Ghz processor speed, 1 GB DDR2 memory, 1 MB L2 cache and 667 Mhz FSB. When we first used the laptop, we were impressed. It's fast enough to handle six windows with different programs at a time (using both Windows XP and Linux Ubuntu Version). I wonder how faster it can run if it were using a Core Duo technology. We haven't installed Photoshop and other related graphics software yet, but I "guestimate" the laptop can handle it as well without trouble (although a little slower, I presume). You might even have second thought about purchasing a more expensive but similar Pentium Dual-Core laptop once you get to try the fast processing ability of Neo Basic.
Neo Basic Laptop: Scratch-free
Pretty
I've tried watching DVD on the Neo and I can say it's fairly neat. It's almost as clear as watching DVD on a real Philips or Sony player. I don't know if it has something to do with pixel or anything but I could almost see the transparent rope used by the cast in a Chinese martial art flick I watched using the laptop. Neo Basic's graphics is VIA VN896CE + VT8237A with WXGA LCD (any idea what it means? LOL). Neo Basic also comes with a 120 GB SATA hard disk drive! That's pretty big in today's standard (remember, it's 2008. I don't know how big a 120 GB after 10 years from now). So big you could almost store considerable amount of MP3s and AVIs files and still have a lot of free space. Not bad for a relatively unknown laptop. Before, only Dell XPS and Toshiba Satellite users can brag about their hard disks' capacity.
With a Dual-Core Processor
Almost as pretty as Lenovo Thinkpad
Internet is no problem, either, as the laptop also comes with WiFi. It has 7-in-1 card reader, although I still don't know how it works. There's also a webcam, a nice feature for closet camwhores and exhibitionists (LOL). It has bluetooth, too. It runs on a 6-cell Lithium-ion battery. And the weight? It's 2.4 kg. Not that light, but not heavy, either (I have friends who have 3 kg. laptops).
With card reader, bluetooth, WiFi, etc.
By no means I am saying that Neo Basic laptop is the best laptop around. Hardly. There are still a lot of laptops out there which are WAY better than this one. In fact, compared to other branded laptops like Thinkpad, XPS, HP Pavilion and Satellite, there's actually nothing "special" about Neo Basic. Except, perhaps, its sleek look, its being scratch-free and the cost. Any other features can also be found in other laptops, particularly the branded ones. In addition to those, there are some things in Neo Basic that can get on the nerves of anybody. For example, its CPU runs hotter in no time than in most laptops, something we tend to hate since we all know overheating easily damages one's computer or any electronic stuff for that matter (good for you if you are in an air-conditioned room). So it's wise to buy a fan to help it cool down. The bad news, however, like some laptops, it can't avoid airborned dust and debris, so as many users have attested, the laptop might eventually run hotter and louder as the years pass. Let's say after 5 years or so, you may have to disassemble it for thorough cleaning — or burn your pocket big time. That is, assuming your laptop at the time is still running.
Another problem is that Neo's customer service is allegedly not that good, with reports saying they take a lot of time to have your laptop fixed (I wish it's not true for other customers). Even if your laptop comes with a one-year warranty (like mine), if the service is bad, it's almost useless. If these are true, then the only consolation one can get is that Neo laptops are relatively cheaper and is fit for people with meager budget. Unfortunately, consolation can also become synonymous to low quality. I just wish some of the controversial problems circulating over the net were just isolated cases.
Anyway, since I've just been into a month of using our Neo Basic laptop, it's premature to say it's really good... or really bad. There are still issues to be raised, like durability. For now, I'll stick with it and give it the benefit of the doubt. In any case, I've had good time using it and so far, not a single problem has surfaced. I hope this goes on until my one-year warranty is up.
For a couple of weeks, Kuchi and I had been window-shopping for a nifty and respectable laptop. Being a (lousy) writer and a graphic artist, we both knew the importance and the necessity of having a full-featured computer that could be easily used anywhere. Actually, practically every electronic equipment that can be miniaturized and optimized for mobile use and efficient power consumption is very effective at present (there are some disadvantages, but they are considered minor). We just wanted to own an inexpensive laptop on which I can write and store my articles/stories, and on which Kuchi can edit, design and save her graphic art works. We had literally craned our neck and peeped through window panes for a couple of weeks until we singled out a sleek, scratch-free laptop named Neo Basic B2165N. In other words, we bought it.
The Neo Basic B2165N laptop comes with many features. It uses an Intel Pentium Dual-Core technology with 1.73 Ghz processor speed, 1 GB DDR2 memory, 1 MB L2 cache and 667 Mhz FSB. When we first used the laptop, we were impressed. It's fast enough to handle six windows with different programs at a time (using both Windows XP and Linux Ubuntu Version). I wonder how faster it can run if it were using a Core Duo technology. We haven't installed Photoshop and other related graphics software yet, but I "guestimate" the laptop can handle it as well without trouble (although a little slower, I presume). You might even have second thought about purchasing a more expensive but similar Pentium Dual-Core laptop once you get to try the fast processing ability of Neo Basic.
Neo Basic Laptop: Scratch-free
PrettyI've tried watching DVD on the Neo and I can say it's fairly neat. It's almost as clear as watching DVD on a real Philips or Sony player. I don't know if it has something to do with pixel or anything but I could almost see the transparent rope used by the cast in a Chinese martial art flick I watched using the laptop. Neo Basic's graphics is VIA VN896CE + VT8237A with WXGA LCD (any idea what it means? LOL). Neo Basic also comes with a 120 GB SATA hard disk drive! That's pretty big in today's standard (remember, it's 2008. I don't know how big a 120 GB after 10 years from now). So big you could almost store considerable amount of MP3s and AVIs files and still have a lot of free space. Not bad for a relatively unknown laptop. Before, only Dell XPS and Toshiba Satellite users can brag about their hard disks' capacity.
With a Dual-Core Processor
Almost as pretty as Lenovo ThinkpadInternet is no problem, either, as the laptop also comes with WiFi. It has 7-in-1 card reader, although I still don't know how it works. There's also a webcam, a nice feature for closet camwhores and exhibitionists (LOL). It has bluetooth, too. It runs on a 6-cell Lithium-ion battery. And the weight? It's 2.4 kg. Not that light, but not heavy, either (I have friends who have 3 kg. laptops).
With card reader, bluetooth, WiFi, etc.By no means I am saying that Neo Basic laptop is the best laptop around. Hardly. There are still a lot of laptops out there which are WAY better than this one. In fact, compared to other branded laptops like Thinkpad, XPS, HP Pavilion and Satellite, there's actually nothing "special" about Neo Basic. Except, perhaps, its sleek look, its being scratch-free and the cost. Any other features can also be found in other laptops, particularly the branded ones. In addition to those, there are some things in Neo Basic that can get on the nerves of anybody. For example, its CPU runs hotter in no time than in most laptops, something we tend to hate since we all know overheating easily damages one's computer or any electronic stuff for that matter (good for you if you are in an air-conditioned room). So it's wise to buy a fan to help it cool down. The bad news, however, like some laptops, it can't avoid airborned dust and debris, so as many users have attested, the laptop might eventually run hotter and louder as the years pass. Let's say after 5 years or so, you may have to disassemble it for thorough cleaning — or burn your pocket big time. That is, assuming your laptop at the time is still running.
Another problem is that Neo's customer service is allegedly not that good, with reports saying they take a lot of time to have your laptop fixed (I wish it's not true for other customers). Even if your laptop comes with a one-year warranty (like mine), if the service is bad, it's almost useless. If these are true, then the only consolation one can get is that Neo laptops are relatively cheaper and is fit for people with meager budget. Unfortunately, consolation can also become synonymous to low quality. I just wish some of the controversial problems circulating over the net were just isolated cases.
Anyway, since I've just been into a month of using our Neo Basic laptop, it's premature to say it's really good... or really bad. There are still issues to be raised, like durability. For now, I'll stick with it and give it the benefit of the doubt. In any case, I've had good time using it and so far, not a single problem has surfaced. I hope this goes on until my one-year warranty is up.
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Hi, Were you able to use Wifi in Linux OS?
...Because 'if' they screw me up...
so, im a nitpicker. my bad :-)
2nd, yep, neo runs wicked with on linux wifi.
2nd, yep, neo runs wicked on linux wifi.
rotfl!
filchi,
unfortunately, i didn't get the chance to use wifi in on linux. i'd removed it before i used wifi..
"so, im a nitpicker. my bad :-)"
i don't know what you're trying to say...
thanks for the review, I'm planning to buy one.
Your review was just too long for a simple subject. Your a journalist but you didn't realized that it was the "bloggers" reading your pompous words.
Your review was just too long for a simple subject. Your a journalist but you didn't realized that it was the "bloggers" reading your pompous words.
thanks. you forgot to realize that this is my blog, didn't you?
hello, i got the same one you have now and everything you've said about the item is true. what i really can't stand is the heat at the left side front but it's pretty much tolerable. what i am not sure about is, if it's really wifi ready, because every time i click on the wifi button it won't transmit signal. i'm not sure if i'm out of coverage but i was just outside this coffee shop. and the bluetooth thing, i don't know how would that work. been trying but no luck. i'm sorry, i know you're not the person i should ask about this things but i've been hearing much about their tech support and it's not good to the ears. so, since you have this blog about neo, i figured you could give me some info on how to work those things, pretty please nutty boy.
many thanks,
rhea
thanks for visiting, rhea. first thing you should do is to ensure that wireless connection in the area is okay, try to ask people who control the wifi. check the "radio on" signal again. some areas have low signal and it really affects the connection. if these things dont work, i suggest you bring the laptop to the shop where you brought it.
i have the same unit. bought it about 3 months ago. i really like the features but...
nasa neo repair shop na ngayon because of a factory-defective video cable.
when i brought the unit to mega mall there was another customer with the same unit and the same problem. turns out defective daw lahat video cable ng first batch of that particular model.
they told me it would take at least 7 working days to fix the damn thing but they couldnt say how long it will really take. obviously holding my breath is not an option.
IF YOU DONT WANT HEADACHE DONT BUY NEO LAPTOPS!NEO LAPTOPS SUCKS
MADALING UMINIT!
MAINGAY ANG FAN!PARANG MAY CHAINSAW!
BATTERY ANG DALING MALOWBAT!
PINAKA POOR ANG PERFORMANCE SA LAHAT NG LAPTOP COMPUTERS!KAINIS!
We'll so far for me, NEO is the best laptop. I have one and using it for about a year now. Cheaper and yet features satisfactory. Go for NEO laptop!!!...
We'll so far for me, NEO is the best laptop. I have one and using it for about a year now. Cheaper and yet features satisfactory. Go for NEO laptop!!!...
just bought one bout a week ago, same model but it doesn't have a bluetooht instead it has this 3g thing same as smart bro but u don't need the whole thing you only need the usim, built in with the main board at the back of the hard disk.
i could not check if it is working cause if i do i'll be unscrewing, and this means ill be voiding the warranty. fuckin neo jerks....
hi nutty boy, by the way may i asked the current condition of your laptop now. Because i have plan to buy neo laptop basic thats why i am still researching about the specs and comments about this brand. Thanks!!!
My laptop is still okay, running like the first time I used it, perhaps on the account that I seldom use it. As I said, Neo is good for those who want a cheaper laptop that can perform average task. If you are looking for laptops for graphics, I might suggest buying branded ones. There are some issues related to Neo Basic, most of these are bad. Could be distribution-related problem, some laptops appear to be malfunctioning.
Neo's customer service in Davao City needs a major overhaul, bigtime
Hi! I'm using a B2180N since March, 2009 and wala pa akong naencounter na problems sa hardware. Never mind the gaming experience, photo and video editing is very good with it! 2.13ghz, 3GB RAM, 256MB video for roughly 23,000.00! Pero if you're the showy type at maraming pera na pambili ng laptop, go for branded. Sabi nga ng "SURF", sing-galing pero 'di sing-mahal!
I'm using B2165 too and it hasn't failed me - ultimately - yet. A few months ago, I encountered a problem with the screen display (that's within just a year since buying it). So having been damaged that early and from the other comments I've heard of, Neo still has room for improvement. Anyhow, I agree that it does provide the basic features anyone could enjoy and is a reliable workstation too.
Oh and nice blog by the way, though lengthy, you've provided useful information many people could benefit from. =D
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I just dont like its screen display. It stretches out the images horizontally like a circle becomes an oblong shape when viewed using Neo Basic.
hi, im planning to buy neo basic 3163 and im looking for reviews like this but i cant find much. do you think it's the same as yours? thanks!
@Shok: this usually happens pag mali ang resolution. try playing with the resolutions to find which one works.
hi i just bought a NEO basic laptop a month ago.
as ive read the comments on yer blog about NEO basic, i immediately agreed to it with no second thoughts (the bad sides i mean.)
the thing is, i am just a college student who rili needs a laptop for my 2-sem. thesis (research subject) and projects (on other subj.)
so obviously.. i don't mind the criticisms at all,
as long as it will work efficiently for the upcoming year and be "ALIVE" for "what'i-don'tknow-years-to-come". ah ah ah did i just said that.??? certainly.
anyway thanks for posting this.
ive been looking for neo laptop reviews. . . and to no avail..
i mean their isn't even a wikipedia for NEO laptop/ its company hehe..:)[gossip?.. no! its factuous]
and as for the problems about the service of NEO...
i mean, y bother tackling it??? almost all company's are like that.
i have a friend who owns a SONY VAIO which is now "junkly-living" (kase nahigaan!!! at mataba ang nakahiga sa kanya [ah ah funny] -hi tambe)
isang buwan na. nasa warranty service paren ng SONY!!!!
so enough criticisms as for me.. and just enjoy having a LAPTOP even if its just NEO...
SAY:
your lucky, not all FILIPINOS own a LAPTOP.. yer blessed. pAX(piz)
-except if yer living on another country. haha
by the way i wud like to share y i'd rather choose A NEO-laptop than,a DELL, TOSHIBA/HP branded laptops!!!
just recently, we had the 2nd oral defense for our thesis...
the projectors we had used are a brand-new ACER and HP projectors of my college (obvious?).
we[me and my classmates], during that day, brought all our laptops (HP Pavilion, Sony VAIO, ASUS Toshiba, ACER Aspire, dell, "NEO 32500") for ya'knaw our powerpoint presentations.
and guess what...??? the only compatible ones to the projectors are the "NEO(mine), ASUS(early's), and ACER(joyce's)" laptop..
to hell with sony, dell, toshiba and hp (even HP!!!)..
so i will say this frankly...
if i were u.
buy ASIAN based laptop e.g. NEO, ACER, ASUS rather than western brands.. (i don't know with toshiba maybe its too hightech, since its originated from JAPAN
(i don't know so - hehe)??)
im not saying that don't buy westen laptops (if you can afford, y not/y bother)..
its just that most of the time, especially if you're living in ASIA, western laptops aren't compatible with the ones e.g. projectors etc. that are available here...
so eun!
i have NEO BASIC B2308 it has a graphics card SiS mirage 3+ can it be changed? im planning on changin it but i have no idea if that card can be changed or not pls reply im hoping for it ty
pls rely if i can changed NEO BASIC B2308"s graphics card THANK YOU
@nikilado its impossible to change the graphics card of the neo. SiS is a chipset Gcard that attached in the motherboard if you really want to change the chipset, my advice is buy another laptop.
r u still using ur laptop until now?
anyone here who is interested in selling his/her ac adaptor to me?
Laptops are supposed to be really portable and one measure of portability is battery life. I’ve had two models of these and they have given me incessant heartaches with their inadequate battery life. Although I find them particularly tough (dropped them lots of times) they still work fine. If you’re planning to use them around the house with the power cable constantly plugged in like a desktop PC, well and good.Otherwise, steer clear of this brand. It’ll die on you when you’ll be making the most important presentation of your life. I'd rather really buy Filipino. But Neo takes advantage of this sentiment and abuses it to no end. Let's stop buying Neo until they develop a better battery.
i had a neo basic b3280n its a notebook actually, i had it for 2 months and it worked good so far. the problem is that it easily heat so i have to buy cooler for it.and there is a time that the notebook hung because of extreme heat (one factor is that im using Windows 7 OS so better use WindowsXP). As an advice use cooler if you are using Neo Notebooks too avoid problems like heating of the heatsink..
i had a neo basic b3280n its a notebook actually, i had it for 2 months and it worked good so far. the problem is that it easily heat so i have to buy cooler for it.and there is a time that the notebook hung because of extreme heat (one factor is that im using Windows 7 OS so better use WindowsXP). As an advice use cooler if you are using Neo Notebooks too avoid problems like heating of the heatsink..
darren (^_^)
me nd my husband were planning to buy NEO BASIC B4103N notebook with specs: Core i3 2.13Ghz, 2 GB memory, 320 GB hard disk, 14" Display, DVDRW, Reader, Webcam, Bluetooth, 6-cell (cool specs ryt coz its Core i3 n for affordable price of 20thou only) for a change to our HP mini laptop. i just wondering if this brand runs well. any advise here and thank you in advance.
Great review. This review is very through and does not feel like you are going through a catalog from the manufacturer. Other reviews feel like they were paid by the manufacturer to make the review.
Hi!
I just want to leave my comment since i am using the exact model - Neo Basic B2165N, bought it last APRIL 2008 and I am still using it at least 10 hours each day.
but i do agree there's a problem with the battery, i think its common with Neo laptops but if your working in the house and uses your laptop more like a pc, highly recommended ang Neo.
Just my thought on the subject.
For all the people out there,neo laptops is not a good choice, i've been working on service centers for years and 80% of there laptops always had a problem from displays, overheating, batteries, wifi, and offcourse the motherboard,
This laptop sucks
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